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Paragwajski parowiec Olimpo

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Czy istnieją jakieś rysunki paragwajskiego parowca "Olimpo" (ex "Argentina") zbudowanego w Bostonie (1857) przez Otisa Tuftsa dla Roberta B. Forbesa?
Nie mam tutaj na myśli rysunku przedstawiającego całą flotę paragwajską (La Vieja Escuadra de Lopez), ani rekonstrukcji Deana Stehmana (bo oba posiadam).

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Otis Tufts budowal raczej maszyny
ale rzyczywiscie statek zelazny tez zbudowal.

ARGENTINA paddle iron
1857 Boston, Mass
118
reg Boston, Mass.
sold foreign 1860
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reg. 28.12.1857 Boston #387
ARGENTINA steamboat 118 29/94t
R.B.Forbes, Boston
15.01.1861 removed
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Captain Forbes enjoyed equal celebrity as a ship builder, and during the course of his active life was concerned with the construction of as many as seventy vessels
of all classes. His first ship was the bark "Lintin," built in 1830, and was owned exclusively by him until 1832, when she sailed into Chinese waters and remained there. In this connection it is interesting to note the name, class, approximate tonnage, and year of con- struction of each of the many vessels built
imder his order or supervision, or in which he had an interest:

bark "Lintin," 390 tons. 1830;
brig "Swan," 150 tons, 1831-32;
schooner yacht "Sylph," 70 tons, 1833;
ship "Hooghly," 350 tons, 1834;
schooner yacht "Fawn," 30 tons, 1835 ;
brig "Henry Clay," 250 tons, 1835 ;
schooner yacht "Dream," 30 tons, 1835;
ship "Levant," 400 tons, 1836;
brig "Rose," 150 tons, 1836;
brig "Isidore," 300 tons, 1836;
ship "Luconia," 450 tons, 1836;
bark "Canton Packet," 350 tons, 1836;
schooner yacht "Breeze," 30 tons, 1837;
steam schooner "Midas," 180 tons, 1841 ;
schooner "Anglona," 90 tons, 1841 ;
schooner "Zephyr," 150 tons, 1N42;
schooner "Mazeppa," 175 tons, 1842;
ship "Xarragansett," 500 tons, 1842;
schooner "Ariel," 100 tons, 1842;
ship "Paul Jones," 750 tons. 1842;
bark "Paulina," 300 tons, 1843;
schooner "Don Juan," 175 tons, 1843;
sru P "Farweli," 700 or 800 tons, 1843 !
brig "Antelope," 370 tons, 1843;
bark "Coquette," 420 tons, 1844;
steam bark "Edith," 400 tons, 1844;
steam tug (iron) "R. B. Forbes," 300 tons, 1845 ;
steamship "Massachusetts," 750 tons, 1845;
bark "Sappho," 350 tons, 1845;
iron propeller "Firefly," 20 tons, 1846;
ship "Samoset," 800 tons, 1847;
sm P "Raduga," 500 tons, 1848;
iron paddle steamer "Mint," 40 tons, 1848;
iron paddle steamer "Jacob Bell," 250 tons, 1849;
ship "Akbar," 700 or 800 tons, 1849;
paddle steamer "Spark," 200 tons, 1849:
schooner "Minna," 300 tons, 1852;
schooner "Brenda," 300 tons, 1852;
propeller steamer "Antelope," 450 tons, 1855 ;
schooner yacht "Halcyon," 90 tons, 1855;
ship "Florence," 1000 tons, 1856;
iron paddle steamer no name. 75 tons, 1856;
iron yacht "Edith," 43 tons, 1856;
wood yacht "Azalea," 43 tons, 1856;
iron herm. brig "Nankin," 260 tons, 1858:
iron paddle steamer "Argentina," 100 tons, 1858;
iron paddle steamer "Alpha," 22 tons, 1858;
schooner "Calliope," 300 tons, 1861 ;
iron paddle, no name. 70 tons, 1861 ;
three iron barges, no name, 1861 ;
iron propeller steamer "Pembroke," 300 tons, 1861 ;
schooner "Madge," 125 tons, 1863;
yacht "Lillie," 20 tons, 1865;
propeller steamer "Niphon," 300 tons, 1865 (sold to the government and was very useful);
propeller ship "Meteor," 1500 tons, 1865;
herm. brob "Jeannie," 300 tons, 1865 :
small propellers "Samson," "Hercules" and "Leviathan," 15 tons each, 1865;
schooner "Syren," 75 tons, 1866;
iron propeller "Cherokee," 350 tons, 1866;
gunboats "Sagamore," "Huron/' "Chocorua," "Kineo," "Katahdin," "Kennebec," "Penobscot," "Aroostook" and "Marblehead," built for the government under
the inspection of Captain Forbes in 1861 and afterward.
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North of Massachusetts, on the Atlantic coast, no production of iron merchant vessels has yet been reported.
An iron vessel was built in Boston as early as 1841. J abez Ooney, an iron manufacturer, paid some attention
to shipbuilding, and obtained a contract for the revenue-cutter Saranac. It is believed that this was the first
iron vessel in New England. Probably others were constructed in the following ten years, but none of large
size. In 1853 the Atlantic works were incorporated by a special charter, and shops were established in East
Boston with all the facilities required for engine- and shipbuilding. In their early history these works built almost
entirely on foreign orders. They made engines for the Russian corvette Mandjoor, Le Voyageur do la Mer, a
steamer for the Pacha of Egypt, and the Paraguayan steamer Argentina, and also built several steamers
complete for the Russians and Chinese, one for the Sandwich Islands, and for American owners the composite
steamer Niphon and the iron steamer Pembroke, the latter being afterward sold to go to the East Indies. In
1861 the works devoted their whole attention to United States government business, and built the iron-turret
monitors Nantucket and Oasco, the turrets for the Monadnock, Agamenticus, Passaconaway, and Shackamaxon,
and the engines for five naval steamers. Since the war these works have built much machinery on government
orders, two iron revenue-cutters complete, the Richard Rush and the Samuel Dexter, and the noted United States
dredge-boat Essayons, which did service at the mouth of the Mississippi river. One of their vessels was the
steamer William Lawrence, of 1,049 tons, for the trade between Boston and Baltimore, in which she is still running.
An iron sailing vessel, the brig Novelty, was also built by them after the war for the transportation of molasses in
bulk; the hold of the little vessel was completely lined with cement for the purpose. The works occupy four
acres of ground, and the equipment is complete. Iron vessels could be undertaken at any time; but of late years
little has been done except the construction of machinery for ferry‘-boats, yachts, excursion boats, etc., and the
repair of iron vessels, and it must be said that, so far as the latter branch of the work is concerned, the port of
Boston now supplies the yard with very little to do. Iron steamers throng the port, but they are all of foreign build
and ownership, and display an indisposition to having work of any kind done on this side of the ocean that can
possibly be avoided.
Le Voyageur de la Mer was built under a contract with George A. Stone, a young man who had been for
several years a resident of Syria as a representative of a Boston commercial house. He was something of an
engineer, andin an interview with the Pacha of Egypt he obtained a contract from him to build a ship. The steamer
was 216 feet long, 37 feet on the beam, and 22 feet deep in the hold, and registered -1,300 tons. The plates and framesPage 6
were rolled in Norristown and Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, machinery being put up in Boston for cutting,
punching, and molding them. The hull required 3,000 plates and 300,000 rivets, a total weight of 881,000 pounds
of iron. The steamer had an inner wooden frame of great solidity oeiled with pitch-pine, two flush decks, and five
water-tight iron bulkheads, two extending to the upper deck. The boilers were four in number, and oscillating
engines of 800 horsepower were put in, which were 5st inches in diameter, with 3 feet stroke. The propeller shaft
was 13 inches in diameter, and carried a 15%-foot wheel. This was one of the very first large iron boats in the
United States
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New York Herald, published as The New York Herald; Date: 01-13-1858; Issue: 7803; Page: [1]; Location: New York, New York

Boston 12 Jan 1858
The US surveying steamer ARGENTINA bound to Rosario, S.America, sailed hence to-day under canvas.
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New York Herald, published as The New York Herald; Date: 05-22-1858; Issue: 7932; Page: 8; Location: New York, New York

St.CATHERINES (Brazil) March 14
In port steamer ARGENTINA , Breck, from Boston, arr 13th, for River of Plate Next day, all well
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New York Herald, published as The New York Herald; Date: 05-31-1858; Issue: 7941; Page: 8; Location: New York, New York

MONTEVIDEO April 5
I port steamer Argentina,Brock, from Boston, arr March 1, for Rosario 7th
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Preble
"History of Steam Navigation"
str 474 (jest tylko w 1-szym wydaniu)

Iron Vessels built by Atlantic Works (chodzi raczej o maszyny tylko)

1858 (for South America Mail) 40t 65x15x7ft paddle
1859 Amoor 45t 65x15x7ft paddle
1860 Osuree 35t 60x12x6ft paddle
1860 Argentina 35t 60x12x6ft paddle
1860 Pembroke screw
1861 40t Beta 65x15x7ft screw
1861 50t Gamma 75x15x8ft screw
1862 Iron Adge screw

takze maszyny dla
Alpha ???
Delta ??
Kilanea for Sandwich Islands
Niphon (composite)
w tym byly parowce dla Rosji i Chin
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Otis Tufts, Boston
St.s R.R.Forbes 329t 1845
Sch.y. Edith 34 1857
St.s. Argentina 118 1857
St.s Alpha 19 1858
Brig Nankin 252 1858

Harrison, Loring & cO
St.s. Sestos 522 1858
St.s. Contest 522 1859
St.s. South Carolina 1465 1860 (composite)
St.s. Massachusetts 1455 1860 (composite)

Atlantic Works
St.s Pembroke 241 1860
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R. B Forbes (Author)
Memoranda concerning the iron yacht Edith, iron steamers Argentina and Alpha, and the iron brig Nankin [Unknown Binding]
# Unknown Binding: 71 pages
# Publisher: James F. Cotter & Co., printers, 14 State Street (1881)
# Language: English




http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=n ... 1;view=1up

Edih sold at Buenos Ayres after 3th April 1859 as a pilot boat.
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Paper: Boston Courier, published as Boston Semi-Weekly Couirer; Date: 11-18-1858; Volume: XXXVI; Issue: 92; Page: [4]; Location: Boston, Massachusetts

CLEARED
brig Nankin (new iron, of this port 252 1/94 tons) Joseph Moseley
Rievr Plate (takes on deck iron steamer ALPHA of 20 tons) RB. Forbed

Lytle list
ALPHA paddle iron
1858 Boston, Mass
19t .
Boston, Mass
sold foreign 1864

South American journals, 1858-1859 - Page xi
George Augustus Peabody, John Charles Phillips - 1937

The party consisted of four and was led by Captain Robert Bennet Forbes, in the iron brig "Nankin." They left Boston 18 November 1858, taking upon the deck the fifty-five foot iron steamer "Alpha,"''' destined for work in South American river

OUR FLAG - Page 278
GEO. HENRY PREBLE - 1872
The yacht Edith, built of iron, owned by R. B. Forbes and sailed from Boston in the fall of 1858, for the Rio de la Platte, and ... British aggression " * * * * * We get on admirably with our " squadron " consisting of the yacht Edith and steamer Alpha
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Bardzi ciekawe stateczki

W 1861 na barku Palmetta - should be Palmetto
dla Russell & Co byl wyslany maly parowiec Hyson
W 1862 sprzedany Taotai dla Armii Generlala Wyrda
uzbrojony 1-32pdr (bow) 1-12pdr (stern) 3.5ft draught of water
Nie ma w rejestrach amerykanskich.
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Scientific American , Supplement No.1557

Atlantic Steam Engine Works
Argentina 100t for S.America
one small 22t for S.America rivers taken by s.v
1859 a steamer of 70t for China
1860 Pembroke
1860 4 small steamboats for East India 60ft taken in pieces
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Wooden ships superseded by iron. Cheap iron indispensable for the revival of American commerce. A commercial marine essential to national progress and defence. Corporate Author: Atlantic Works, Boston, Mass.
Language(s): English
Published: Boston: A. Mudge & Son, printers. 1869.

http://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/008923052
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Title Atlantic Works, Builders of Iron Steamships, Marine Engines, Babcock, Wilcox & Co.'s Patent Stationary Engines, Protable Engines, Boilers, Tanks and Genaral Machinery
Author Atlantic Works (Boston)
Published 1870
Length 35 pages

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