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Ryga

: 2005-01-19, 20:27
autor: AvM
Szukam informacji, zdjec, itd dotyczacych Rygi 1815-1945.

Dla zachety spis statkow z 1858 roku.

Riga 1858
Owner Name Last NHP Year Builder Where Material Propeller Crew
Riz. Birz. Komitet Riga 20 30 1846 Riga Wood Paddle 1+4
K.Deibner i Ko. Leander 60 20 1858 Scotland Iron Paddle 2+18
Verman i syn Verman 50 60 1851 UK Iron Paddle 1+6
Ioann Christof 14 36 1845 UK Wood Paddle 1+5
Bratia Brant Ranger 20 54 1846 UK Wood Paddle 1+5
G.F.Schröder i Ko. Undine 20 80 1857 UK Iron Paddle 2+6
G.Veidner Fishland 13 46 1850 UK Wood Paddle 1+5
Vesterberg i Ko. Omnibus 3 15 1848 Sweden Iron Paddle 1+1
Krigsmann Unite 21 45 1849 Riga Wood Paddle 1+4 Engine from England
A.Faen Kommunikacia 38 40 1853 Vulcan Stettin Iron Paddle 1+6
No.1 3 12 1853 Vulcan Stettin Iron Paddle 1+1
No.2 3 12 1853 Vulcan Stettin Iron Paddle 1+1
No.3 3 12 1853 Vulcan Stettin Iron Paddle 1+1

: 2005-01-19, 20:46
autor: AvM
I kilka obrazkow

FORTUNA
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ADLER
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KECKAU (ex No1) por wyzej ze Szczecina przebudowany w 1872r
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Port
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: 2005-01-19, 21:09
autor: AvM
A moze tos ma ksiazki:

Enciklopedija, Latvijas Jurniecibas Vesture, 1850-1950.
Enciklopedija, Latvijas Jurniecibas Vesture, 1950-2000.

AvM

: 2005-01-19, 21:27
autor: AvM
I jeszcze rosyjska flotylla , z innego form:

NOVGOROD (x AGATA)
PSKOV (x "N")sunk by crew 21.2.1918 in Pernau
KOLYVAN (x DALEN)
TRANSPORT No. 1 (x KURZEMNEKS)
TRANSPORT No. 2 (x LELUPNEKS)
"A" /LILLI/"
B" /NADJA/
"V" (or "W") /TANGO/
"G" /BOLINDER/"D"

AvM From my records:AGATA very probably AGATHE (?) 140grt 150ihp of A.Augsburg DALEN or DAHLEN (1912) 97grt 125ihp of Strauch & Kruming, by 1929 AGATA of A.AugsburgLILLI was a steamer built 1895 at Hamburg 32ihpLILI was a steamer built 1893 at Hamburg 16ihp

NOVGOROD (x AGATA; flag - Russian commercial) 114 x 20,7 x 6,5 ft 2T 50HPKOLYVAN (x DALEN; flag - Russian commercial) 110 x 18 x 3 ft paddle steamer 45HP"A" /LILLI/ (;flag - Russian commercial) tonnage - abt. 4 t ; 30-35 x 6-8 2,5-3 ft motor Bolinder = 7,5-8,5 kn

The history is more and more interesting.

The Russian ex Latvian transports during WW I were:

TRANSPORT No. 1 (ex KURZEMNEKS perheps Kursemnesk ???)
Built again in 1871 in Göteborg, Sweden
179,5 grt 31,1x5,9x3,5m 160ihp=8,5kts
mobilised WW I in August 1915
left Pernau 21.2.1918 , seized by German forces, returned ???

TRANSPORT No. 2 (ex LELUPNEKS ???)
mobilised WW I in August 1915
left Pernau 21.2.1918 , seized by German forces, returned ???

JURMALNEKS or JURMALNIEKS
Data accordingly to Gomm Band 8 p. 88
built 1900 Gebr. Mass Neustrelitz
53grt 32,66/25,91x4,57x0,90/2,05m 180ihp=8kts
90dwt 86passengers
mobilised WW I on 23 August 1915
seized Kotka 7.4.1918 by Finnish forces
1-2.5.18 according to the Brest Treaty sent Kronstad
Mai 1918 decomissioned
10.12.20 returned to Latvia according to Riga Treaty
1940 seized Soviets
1941 seized by germans
1.06.1941 still exist

Berezhnoy say eventually built 1909 or 1900 in Germany
53grt 25.9x4.6x2,0m 180hp=8kts
fates as above

The 1929 register:
Owner A./s. "Kurzemes Kugn", Jelgava, Upes iela 15
= Kurlandische Schiffahrts AG, Mitau
1909 23,25x4,35x2,00m 180ihp 380 Passengers

Gröner gives:
78grt 32.66x4.43x2.00m 180ihp
10.8.15 Russian Navy (wrony as in old style-correct as above)
25.10.17 red Russians
10.12.23 Latvian (wrong, ad after Revolution -correct as above)
1.6.44 Seekdt Libau

In 1900 Gebr.Mass built:
#33 Personendampfer Wilhelm 1900 20 m A.Kelling, Erkner
#34 Personendampfer Kyffhäuser No 5 1900 19,8 m R.Tismer, Niederschöneweide
#35 Schleppdampfer Friedrich Carl 1900 A.Staak, Woltersdorf

In 1908-9 Gebr.Mass built:
#65 Personendampfer Alice 1908 26,3 m A.Blankenburg, Fürstenberg
#66 Schleppdampfer Siegfried 1908 28 m F.Flügge, Lünow
#67 Personendampfer Karl Wilhelm 1909 21,8 m W.Schwarz, Zehdenick
#68 Personendampfer Siegesfürst 1909 28,5 m R.Kieck, Berlin
#69 Personendampfer Elisabeth 1909 25,3 m O.Jenge, Neuruppin
#70 Personendampfer Falke 1909 25,3 m K.Strahl, Neustrelitz

One AGATE is also localised;
paddle steamer HANNOVER built 1907 J.L.Meyer, Papenburg #221
for "Hannover" VerienDampschiffs Reed. Norden & Norderney, Norden
1909 Husum Amrumer Dampschiff. AG, Husum
Aug 1911 AGATE A.Augsburg ,Riga
1921 ENDLA Estonian Goverment
1925 registered Loksa
1928 registered Tallin
1930 registered Loksa
1937 sold for scrap
148grt/75nrt 32,18x6,26x2,13x2,30m

see Strandgut 38 p50 49 p154 54 p 100

TRANSPORT No. 1 (x KURZEMNEKS) and TRANSPORT No. 2 (x LELUPNEKS) was:75 x 16 x 3 ft; 1 "Bolinder" ? hp = 4,5 - 5 kn. Arms - machine guns.

AvM

Riga

: 2005-07-22, 22:19
autor: D.Dmitriev
Я также интересуюсь этой темой.Сам из Риги. Указанные энциклопедии у меня есть. blauwal@list.ru

: 2007-09-19, 14:36
autor: AvM
Stettin built ships for Riga:
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MITAU (1860) passenger
Vulkan, Stettin #20
84grt 31,39x4,70m 45nhp=7,5kts
Yard: KapitÄn Geslin , LØbeck

SOFIA (1861) tug 50nhp
Vulkan, Stettin #27
86grt 25,11x5,02m
Yard: SOPHIE Baggevant & Meinhardt, Libau
1862 Rizhskij Birzhovyj Komitet
1874 Rizhskij Birzhovyj KomitetØ
1878 SOPHIE Rizhskij Birzhovyj Komitet
1880 SOPHIE Rizhskij Birzhovyj Komitet

KATERINA (1862) tug 30nhp
Vulkan, Stettin #28
102grt 22,60x4,70m
Yard: CATHARINA Baggevant & Meinhardt, Libau
1862 Libavskij Port
1869 Libavskij Port

RIGA (PERNOVA) (1862) tug-passenger 45nhp
106nrt, 40,44 ´ 4,90 ´ 2,36/... m; 60 nhp
1866 RIGA Berlen i Ko., Riga
1878 RIGA-PERNAU Berlen i Ko., Riga

RUEGEN (1858) tug-passenger 50nhp
MÃller & Holberg , Stettin #84
165grt/120nrt 80nhp 45.9x5.3x2.98m
Yard. 48,00x5,41x1,87m 250ihp
20.06.1862 reg H.Israel, Straslund 29last #121
1873 Pernau
is perheps the same as
1867 FELLIN reg Pernau
1873 Pernau
1878 Berlen i Ko., Riga (1860)
1891 H.D.Schmidt, Pernau
1893 new engine & boiler by Lange & Son, Riga
1901 as above

(the below is ex KATERINA ???)
LIVONIA (1860) cargo 26nhp
66nrt 32,06x4,72x2,92/2,44m
1876 B.Bostem, K.Krejman i dr., Riga
1878 Zimmermann, Riga

: 2008-07-14, 11:13
autor: AvM
AvM pisze:A moze tos ma ksiazki:

Enciklopedija, Latvijas Jurniecibas Vesture, 1850-1950.
Enciklopedija, Latvijas Jurniecibas Vesture, 1950-2000.

AvM
Ja w miedzyczasie mam :-)

Neistety spisy statkow handlowych , tylkom od 1918
ale sa zaglowce.

zaczalem cos niecos o rydze:
- parowce do 1918
- budownictwo okretowe 1800 do 1945

: 2008-07-14, 14:21
autor: pothkan
Ciekawostka a propos :lol:

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PS. Czemu u nas takich nie ma?