Finlandia statki zbudowane dla Rosjan jako reparacje woj.

[Andrzej J.]

Pytanie nr 1 redakcji "MSiO":
Czy w literaturze bądź w internecie są pełne spisy statków jak w tytule?
Problem dotyczy lat 1944-1960 (?). Obok tego była też komercyjna budowa, za pieniądze.
Wiem tylko że trochę jest tego w broszurach formatu A4 wydawanych przez Petera Tschurscha z serii "Sowjetische Frachtschiffe" (tytuł piszę z pamięci), trzymasztowe żaglowce w liczbie ok. 50 (?) a la antymagnetyczna Zarja są w albumach typu "Die letzten grossen Segelschiffe". Czy są jakies rzeczowe ks. fińskie i rosyjskie, może prace naukowe?
W każdym razie, co wiemy i co możemy wiedzieć? Sugestie, podpowiedzi, tropy...

[pothkan]

W internecie osobiście na nic się natknąłem. W latach 1950-tych zbudowano w Finlandii dla MW ZSRR trochę okrętów pomocniczych (conieco danych da się wygrzebać w Pawłowach), m.in. w Turku demagnetyzacyjne proj. 220 (Sekstan, kilka potem poszło "na wtórny eksport"), poza tym np. holowniki proj. 730 (Tugur) - tu już ciężej się połapać, bo były też chyba budowane w Leningradzie...

[Andrzej J.]

Mi nie chodzi o jednostki zbudowane dla marynarki wojennej, ile o cywilne - frachtowce, rozmaite badawcze, holowniki, no i żaglowce. To co Finlandia zbudowana dla WMF, to w zasadzie znam - generalnie jest w rocznikach flot.

[AvM]

Gdzies jest lista 50 szkunerow szkolnych zbudowanych przez Rauma/Repola

Zadaj pytanie na forum:

http://www.warsailors.com/forum/list.php?1

Mrty Bollinger zajmuje sie ostatnio reparacjami dla ZSRR:

AvM

[Janusz Kluska]

W internecie ( http://www.warsailors.com/forum ) znalazłem ogólne zestawienie jakie Finlandia przekazała (zbudowała) dla ZSRR.

The total tonnage of the Finnish Merchant Marine vessels (105) ceded was 82522 brt.
After that 471 Vessels with 257176 brt were left to Finland.
The Vessels Finland built for USSR were
- 30 Sea tugs 800hp engine
- 20 Sea tugs 300hp
- 12 Lake tugs 500hp
- 27 Lake and River tugs 400 hp
- 30 Sea Barges 3000 t
- 25 Lake barges 2000 t
- 3 Merchant Ships 3000 t, German Lloyd register(?), combustion engines
- 7 Merchant Ships 3200 t Soviet register (?),steam engines
- 2 merchant Ships 3200 t German Lloyds register (?), steam engines
- 2 Merchant Ships 2000 t, steam engines
- 10 Sea trawlers 800hp
- 205 Barges with wood&steel constuction 1000 t
- 90 Scooners, sail&engine, 300 t
- 4 floating docks
- 50 River tugs 150hp
- 1 anti-magnetic scooner ("Zarja")

Z innego forum poświęconego statkom, (nie pamiętam z jakiego)
Type:
Bkn3 = 3-m barkentine,
FASr3 = 3-m gaff schooner,
BmSr3 = 3-m Bermuda schooner,
Sr3 = 3-m schooner, subtype not known,
C = cargo, R = research, T = training

Oy Laivateollisuus AB (LATE), Turku / Åbo:

No....Name / in Cyrillic......................Type......launched.. ..delivered

..1...SEKSTAN / СЕКСТАН.................Bkn3 T....47-10-04...47-12-31
..2...KAPELLA / КАПЕЛЛА..................Bkn3 T....47-11-27...48-07-12
..3...SIRIUS / СИРИУС......................Bkn3 T....47-12-23...48-07-30
.......later name KRONVERK
..4...ALPHA or ALFA / АЛЬФА............Bkn3 T....48-04-21...48-09-08
..5...MERIDIAN / МЕРИДИАН..............Bkn3 T....48-06-10...48-10-01
.......later name MERIDIANAS
..6...ZENIT / ЗЕНИТ.........................Bkn3 T....48-07-10...48-10-16
..7...HORISONT / ГОРИЗОНТ..............Bkn3 T....48-08-07...48-11-23
..8...TROPIK / ТРОПИК.....................Bkn3 T....48-08-31...48-12-14
..9...SPRUT / СПРУТ........................FASr3 C...48-11-03...49-01-20
10...PERLAMUTR / ПЕРЛАМУТР..........BmSr3 C...48-11-23...49-01-31
11...USTRITSA / УСТРИЦА................FASr3 C...48-12-22...49-06-10
12...KRAB / КРАБ.............................FASr3 C...49-01-14...49-06-10
13...JANTAR / ЯНТАРЬ......................FASr3 C...49-02-07...49-06-22
14...KOMETA / КОМЕТА....................FASr3 C...49-02-28...49-10-15
15...SAIRA / САЙРА.........................Sr3 C.......49-03-28...49-09-01
16...AMBRA / АМБРА........................FASr3 C...49-04-21...49-08-13
17...SARDINA / САРДИНА..................BmSr3 T...49-05-16...49-11-26
......later name ZAPAD
18...KAIRA / КАЙРА..........................BmSr3 C...49-06-07...49-12-02
19...VOSTOK / ВОСТОК....................BmSr3 T...49-07-01...49-12-22
20...KETA / КЕТА.............................FASr3 C...49-08-09...49-12-30
21...AKULA / АКУЛА.........................FASr3 C...49-09-12...50-04-26
22...L-22.......................................Sr3 C.......49-10-12...50-04-20
23...L-23.......................................Sr3 C.......49-11-17...50-05-11
24...L-24.......................................Sr3 C.......49-12-14...50-06-30
25...L-25.......................................Sr3 C.......49-12-30...50-06-29
26...L-26.......................................Sr3 C.......50-01-26...50-06-30
27...KUPY.......................................FA Sr3 C...50-03-06...50-12-15
28...MYNTU....................................FASr 3 C...50-03-07...51-05-07
29...TAHKUNA.................................FASr3 C...50-04-06...51-05-07
30...L-30.......................................Sr3 C.......50-05-15...51-05-12
31...L-31.......................................Sr3 C.......50-06-09...51-05-12
32...IVAN MESJATSEV /....................Bkn3 T.....50-09-18...50-12-14
......ИВАН МЕСЯЦЕВ
33...L-33.......................................Sr3 C.......50-08-28...51-05-31
34...GEORGIJ RATMANOV /................Bkn3 T.....50-10-21...50-12-28
......ГЕОРГИЙ РАТМАНОВ
35...L-35.......................................Sr3 C......50-11-21...51-06-26
36...RISTNA...................................FASr 3 C...50-12-30...51-07-31
37...L-37.......................................Sr3 C......50-12-29...51-06-29
38...L-38.......................................Sr3 C......51-06-09...51-08-31
39...L-39.......................................Sr3 C......51-06-12...51-08-31
40...L-40.......................................Sr3 C......51-08-16...51-09-28
41...L-41.......................................Bkn3 T.....51-09-04...51-10-23
42...L-42.......................................Bkn3 T.....51-10-05...51-11-17
43...L-43.......................................Bkn3 T.....52-03-27...52-06-16
44...VENTA / ВЕНТА ex L-44.............Bkn3 T.....52-06-05...52-07-30
......later name VEGA
45...L-45.......................................Bkn3 T.....52-05-06...52-06-30
54...ZARJA / ЗАРЯ...........................FASr3 R...52-09-06...52-09-18
.?.30–40..KODOR / КОДОР.................BmSr3 T..................51-??-??
.?.41 or 42..KROPOTKIN /..................Bkn3 T....................51-??-??
................КРОПОТКИН
.?.41 or 42..MENDELEEV /..................Bkn3 T....................51-??-??
................МЕНДЕЛЕЕВ
.?.22-26..POLYARNYY ODISSEY..........Sr3 R......................50-??-??


F. W. Hollming Oy, Raumo:

..1...AKADEMIK SHAKALSKIJ /.............Sr3 C......46-06-15...46-10-14
.......АКАДЕМИК ШАКАЛЬСКИЙ
..2...PROFESSOR VIZE /.....................Sr3 C......46-06-17...46-10-14
.......ПРОФЕССОР ВИЗЕ
..3...KALMAR / КАЛЬМАР...................BmSr3 C. ..46-09-19...47-01-02
..4...KORALL / КОРАЛЛ.....................BmSr3 C...46-09-21...47-01-02
..5...JUNGA / ЮНГА..........................Bkn3 T.....47-05-09...47-08-13
..6...SHTURMAN / ШТУРМАН .............Bkn3 T.....46-12-22...47-08-13
..7...MIDJA / МИДИЯ.........................Sr3 C.......47-05-23...47-07-30
..8...ULVA.......................................S r3 C.......47-06-11...47-07-30
..9...SATURN / САТУРН.....................Sr3 C.......47-09-18...47-12-30
10...JUPITER / ЮПИТЕР.....................Sr3 C.......47-10-04...48-05-22
11...PLANETA / ПЛАНЕТА..................Sr3 C.......47-11-27...48-06-06
12...SMENA / СМЕНА........................Sr3 C.......48-01-15...48-06-06
13...BLESK / ВЛЕСК..........................Sr3 C.......................48-10-29
14...TSHAIKA or CHAIKA /..................FASr3 C...................48-12-29
......ЧАЙКА
15...NEPTUNIA / НЕПТУНИЯ................BmSr3 C ..................48-12-18
16...TREPANG / ТРЕПАНГ...................Sr3 C.......................48-12-18
17...MINTAI / МИНТАЙ......................Sr3 C.......48-12-16...49-06-19
18...OMAR / ОМАР............................Sr3 C......................48-10-29
19...RAKETA / РАКЕТА.......................Sr3 C......49-05-28...49-12-20
20...LUTCH / ЛУЧ.............................FASr3 C...49-07-03...49-12-10
21...TDY-111 / ТДИ-111....................Sr3 C......49-09-20...50-05-25
22...TDY-112 / ТДИ-112....................Sr3 C......49-10-14...50-05-25
38...H-38 / X-38...............................Sr3 C......50-04-29...51-06-02
39...H-39 / X-39...............................Sr3 C......50-05-20...51-05-20
40...H-40 / X-40...............................Sr3 C......50-06-20...51-06-06
41...H-41 / X-41...............................Sr3 C......50-07-12...51-07-01
42...H-42 / X-42...............................Sr3 C......50-08-01...51-06-10
43...H-43 / X-43...............................Sr3 C......50-12-30...51-06-17
44...H-44 / X-44...............................FASr3 C...51-05-17...51-07-25
45...H-45 / X-45...............................Sr3 C......51-07-10...51-09-26
46...H-46 / X-46...............................Sr3 C......51-07-28...51-11-01
47...H-47 / X-47...............................Sr3 C......51-12-17...52-07-25
48...H-48 / X-48...............................Sr3 C......52-02-15...52-07-05
49H-49 / X-49..................................Sr3 C......52-05-15...52-08-23
..?...LUNA / ЛУНА.............................FASr3 C...?...............?
..?..21 or 22..PROFESSOR RUDOVITS /..FASr3 C...?..............50-??-??
.................ПРОФЕССОР РУДОВИЦ
..?...?........................................... ..BmSr3 C ...?...............?
.......later name KIHNU JÖNN


Aug. Eklöf AB, Hammars Varv, Borgå:

..1...LAMA / ЛАМА............................FASr3 C...46-06-20...46-09-25
..2...POLJARNAJA / ПОЛЯРНАЯ.............FASr3 C ...46-07-20...46-09-25
..3...VENERA / ВЕНЕРА.......................BmSr3 C...47-04-30...47-07-14
..4...CHEMTJUG or JEMCHUG...............BmSr3 C...47-07-10...47-10-13
.......ЖЕМЧУГ
..5...GLOBUS / ГЛОБУС......................FASr3 C...47-12-23...48-10-21
..6...SVESDA or ZVEZDA.....................BmSr3 C...48-07-23...48-10-21
.......ЗВЕЗДА
..7...OSJMINOG / ОСЬМИНОГ ...............FASr3 C...48-11-17...49-07-20


Valkon Laiva OY, Valkom:

..2...KREVETKA / КРЕВЕТКА.................Sr3 C......46-09-19...47-02-03
..3...MEDUSA / МЕДУЗА......................Sr3 C.....................47-05-20
..4...AKTINIJA / АКТИНИЯ....................BmSr3 C.................47-10-28
..5...LANGUST / ЛАНГУСТ...................Sr3 C.....................48-01-14

Because of the big number of schooners without name it has been impossible to put the following vessels to the right yard:

ENISEJ or YENISSEI / ЕНИСЕЙ............................?.......... ...?
KAPELLA / КАПЕЛЛА...........................BmSr3 C.................?
(not to be mistaken with Bkn3 of the same name)
KUMJA............................................. Sr3 C.....................?
NADESZDA / НАДЕЖДА.......................Sr3 C.....................?
TOBOL / ТОБОЛ............................................. .?.............?
UMBA / УМБА....................................Sr3 C.....................?
ZUID.............................................. ..BmSr3 C.................?