Japonska flota handlowa - Narodziny Potegi

AvM · Post autor: **AvM** » 2010-02-08, 14:21

Znalazlem kilku armatorow ze Szczecina , mieszkajacychw Azji

Carl Ernst Böddinghaus, Shanghai
Berlin brig 141 CL reg 11.11.1864 in 1864 register
Danzig brig 157 CL reg 14.11.1864 in 1864 register

W.G.L. Hallensleben, Nagasaki
Dom Pedro II Bark 141 CL 14.12.1863 in 1863,64 registers

G.Hitzeroth, Canton
Branderburg firgate 805 CL in 1863,64 registers

F.Kock , Shanghai
Alster bark 295CL in 1864 register

Th. Probst Shanghai
William Pustan bark 187 CL 17.8.1863 in 1863,64 registers
Toyfat bark 145 CL 17.8.1863 in 1863,64 registers
Hartaban bark 188 CL 24.2.1863 in 1863,64 registers
Graf Eulenburg bark 185 CL 17.8.1863 in 1863,64 registers
Fruiter bark 130 CL 1.6.1864 in 18664 register

AvM · Post autor: **AvM** » 2010-02-08, 14:23

To moze nie na poczatek , ale zeby cos bylo.

Chcialbym podyskutowac o statkach zaglowych i parowach Japonii sprzed 1870 roku.

AvM · Post autor: **AvM** » 2010-02-08, 14:39

Zaglowce sprzedane Japonii do 1867

Kenjun (1867) USA 378t
Shenshu (1851) USA 263t
Hosho (1857) England 340t
Kakuko (1854) USA
Mikako (1865) Russia
Chitose (1865) Scotland
Chotose (1853) England

pothkan · Post autor: **pothkan** » 2010-02-08, 15:41

Kilka ciekawostek sprzed epoki sakoku:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_w ... n_Bautista

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_w ... na_Ventura

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_seal_ships

AvM · Post autor: **AvM** » 2010-02-16, 17:26

List of Shogunate Ships in 1854-1867

[table]
[mrow] Name [col] Launch Date [col] Tonnage [col] Propulsion [col] Built in [col] Naval Mercantile
[row] Choyo [col] 1856 [col] 600t [col] Screw [col] Holland [col] Naval
[row] Baryn [col] 1856 [col] 400t [col] Screw [col] England [col] Naval
[row] Kanrin [col] 1856 [col] 600t [col] Screw [col] Holland [col] Naval
[row] Konko [col] 1852 [col] 781t [col] Paddle [col] Holland [col] Naval
[row] Chiyodagata [col] 1862 [col] 140t [col] Screw [col] Japan [col] Naval
[row] Ajuma [col] 1864 [col] 1358t [col] Screw [col] France [col] Naval
[row] Kaijo [col] 1865 [col] 2817t [col] Screw [col] Holland [col] Naval
[row] Fujijma [col] 1864 [col] 1000t [col] Screw [col] U.S.A. [col] Naval
[row] Kaiten [col] 1851 [col] 1450t [col] Paddle [col] Germany [col] Naval
[row] Kenjun [col] 1867 [col] 378t [col] Sail [col] U.S.A. [col] Mercanttile
[row] Shensu [col] 1851 [col] 263t [col] Sail [col] U.S.A. [col] Mercanttile
[row] Hosho [col] 1857 [col] 340t [col] Sail [col] England [col] Mercanttile
[row] Kyorin [col] 1861 [col] 361t [col] Paddle [col] U.S.A. [col] Mercanttile
[row] Nagasaki [col] 1858 [col] 132t [col] Paddle [col] Scotland [col] Mercanttile
[row] Shoko [col] 1861 [col] 119grt [col] Screw [col] Scotland [col] Mercanttile
[row] Jundo [col] 1861 [col] 601drt [col] Paddle [col] England [col] Mercanttile
[row] Chitose [col] 1865 [col] [col] Sail [col] Scotland [col] Mercanttile
[row] Shokaku [col] 1857 [col] 1003t [col] Paddle [col] U.S.A. [col] Mercanttile
[row] Shogui [col] 1848 [col] 83grt [col] Screw [col] England [col] Mercanttile
[row] Nagasaki [col] 162 [col] 34net [col] Screw [col] Scotland [col] Mercanttile
[row] Taihei [col] 1859 [col] 1318t [col] Paddle [col] England [col] Mercanttile
[row] Nagasaki [col] 1846 [col] 211grt [col] Paddle [col] India [col] Mercanttile
[row] Kakuo [col] 1854 [col] [col] Sail [col] U.S.A. [col] Mercanttile
[row] Mikako [col] 1865 [col] [col] Sail [col] Russia [col] Mercanttile
[row] Taiko [col] 1862 [col] 60´9grt [col] Screw [col] U.S.A. [col] Mercanttile
[row] Kokuryn [col] 1862 [col] 167t [col] Screw [col] China [col] Mercanttile
[row] Shinosoku [col] 1861 [col] 163grt [col] Screw [col] Thailand [col] Mercanttile
[row] Kosuku [col] 1860 [col] 312grt [col] Paddle [col] China [col] Mercanttile
[row] ex kestel [col] 1856 [col] 233bm [col] Screw [col] England [col] Mercanttile
[row] Kisho [col] 1864 [col] 669grt [col] Screw [col] Scotland [col] Mercanttile
[row] Chohei [col] 1864 [col] 1462t [col] Paddle [col] Scotland [col] Mercanttile
[row] Ryusho [col] 1861 [col] 73grt [col] Screw [col] Scotland [col] Mercanttile
[row] hogui [col] 1854 [col] [col] Sail [col] Japan [col] Mercanttile
[row] Shohei [col] 1855 [col] [col] Sail [col] Japan [col] Mercanttile
[row] Hoo [col] 1854 [col] [col] Sail [col] Japan [col] Mercanttile
[row] Hiryu [col] 1863 [col] 590grt [col] Screw [col] U.S.A. [col] Mercanttile
[row] Chotose [col] 1855 [col] [col] Sail [col] England [col] Mercanttile
[row] Hakodabte [col] 1858 [col] [col] Sail [col] Japan [col] Mercanttile
[row] Nagsakigata [col] 1857 [col] [col] Sail [col] Japan [col] Mercanttile
[row] Kimigawagata [col] [col] [col] Sail [col] Japan [col] Mercanttile
[row] Azaki [col] 1856 [col] [col] Sail [col] Japan [col] Mercanttile
[row] Taigen [col] 1855 [col] [col] Sail [col] Japan [col] Mercanttile
[row] Sento [col] 18?? [col] [col] Screw [col] ? [col] Mercanttile
[row] Kamedama [col] 158 [col] [col] Sail [col] Japan [col] Mercanttile
[/table]

AvM · Post autor: **AvM** » 2010-02-17, 11:00

Meteor wooden screw steamer (Built in of teak, iron fastened,)
1859 Bangkok
163 grt, 86 nrt
Japanese sources give conflicting dimensions 130 x 16 and 106 x 17.
1862, Conklin of Hong .Kong . USA
owned by . Drake & Co.
Acquired by the Shogunate at Hakodate for 47,000;
March 1864 was renamed SHINSOKU or JUNSOKU MARU.
Served in Enomotos fleet
November 1868. stranded and wrecked Ezashi,

AvM · Post autor: **AvM** » 2010-02-17, 12:01

Sento
A wooden screw steamer broken up in 1865 in Nagasaki. Owned by the Shogunate.

Na razie nie mam nic wiecej

AvM · Post autor: **AvM** » 2010-02-17, 12:20

I jesczcze dwa o ktorych nic nie wiadomo. (na zazie

)

KO-SA-SHI

A British ship said to have borne a name transliterated as this is said to have been imported at the Osaka Customs House 1870 by Harmina Ube.

GUARD

The Hiogo and Osaka Herald 13.6.68 reports a Satsuma steamer that had born this name, she had sprung a leak. I have seen no other references of her.

AvM · Post autor: **AvM** » 2010-02-17, 12:21

KESTREL (Br.)

Ex-H.M.S., built in Liverpool 1856, 110´2 x 21´11, 40 h.p., wood screw, 238 tons. Sold to Glover 1866 and sold by him to the Shogun, September 1866. She appears in the Shogunate fleet list without a Japanese name.

AvM · Post autor: **AvM** » 2010-02-18, 13:08

Godeffroy & Co., Reiherstegwerft, Hamburg

#190 Adler 21,4x4,3m 12nhp high pressure iron screw
#191 Habicht 16,2x4,0m 10nhp

1868 Lehmann, Hartmann & Co

Janusz Kluska · Post autor: **Janusz Kluska** » 2010-03-06, 09:12

Na stronce można znaleźć ciekawe info (tylko te szlaczki)
http://homepage3.nifty.com/jpnships/

OOTORI MARU (1864)
508¨K271/HBFJ¨QBWV ?S??D?D 1,006G/T i? 1864.
Lpp 67.59(221'-9") B 8.84(29'-0") D 6.83(22'-5") m Ž12/14.6kt
Harland & Wolff Ltd.,Belfast?š?? Robinows & Majoribanks,London
Ta Pang Nyo (1864)J. Trautmann & Co.(London)?É???p¨1866.8.16 OOTORI MARU (1866.11.19) > KISHO MARU (1868.4.11)

KINOKUNI MARU (1858)
?S??D?D 796G/T i? 1858.__.__
Lpp 71.17 B 8.99 m 200HP
Thames Iron Works & Shipbuilding Co.,Blackwall,London?š??
The Peninsular And Oriental Steam Navigation Co.,London Nepaul ¨1867.4.26(1867)? 1870.10.22 KINOKUNI MARU 1871

CHITOSE MARU (1867)
488/HBGD ???SŹ??D?D 328G/T i? 1867.
Lpp 51.05 B 7.36 D 6.37 m 103/360PS 10kt
Henderson Coublorn & Co.,Renfrew?š?? E. M. De Bussche,London
Coquette ¨1867(1867)?, CHITOSE MARU ?1871, 1872.8; 1873 SEIRYU MARU ?1875.6 ; 1875.9

TAKASAGO MARU (1860)
44/HBDS ?S?ŠO?Ö?D?D 1,230G/T i? 1860.
Lpp 98.85 B 10.76 D 9.14 m 236/1,250HP 12.5kt
Thames Iron Works & Shipbuilding Co.,Blackwall,London?š??
The Peninsular And Oriental Steam Navigation Co.,London

AvM · Post autor: **AvM** » 2012-08-20, 20:01

AvM pisze:Znalazlem kilku armatorow ze Szczecina , mieszkajacych w Azji

Carl Ernst Böddinghaus, Shanghai
Berlin brig 141 CL reg 11.11.1864 in 1864 register

1865 sold for 11,000$ for Echzen Japan 207t

1866 160CL built 1855

AvM pisze: Carl Ernst Böddinghaus, Shanghai
Danzig brig 157 CL reg 14.11.1864 in 1864 register

schooner 1868 sold for 6,000$ to American Citizen 289t

1866 170CL built 1855

AvM pisze: W.G.L. Hallensleben, Nagasaki
Dom Pedro II Bark 141 CL 14.12.1863 in 1863,64 registers

1861 American vessel with that name arrived

1866 180CL built 1859

AvM pisze: G.Hitzeroth, Canton
Branderburg firgate 805 CL in 1863,64 registers

1865 sold for 35,000$ for Japanese Government 800t

1866 805CL built ????

AvM pisze: F.Kock , Shanghai
Alster bark 295CL in 1864 register

1866 295CL built ????

AvM pisze: Th. Probst Shanghai
William Pustan bark 187 CL 17.8.1863 in 1863,64 registers

1866 not listed

AvM pisze: Toyfat bark 145 CL 17.8.1863 in 1863,64 registers

1866 250CL built 1857 Toy Fat

AvM pisze: Hartaban bark 188 CL 24.2.1863 in 1863,64 registers

1866 290CL built 1854 Martaban

AvM pisze: Graf Eulenburg bark 185 CL 17.8.1863 in 1863,64 registers

1849 built Kennebunk 333t US Reg'63

1866 220CL built 1847 Graf v. Eulenburg

AvM pisze: Fruiter bark 130 CL 1.6.1864 in 18664 register

1853 Kingston, Mass US reg US->British

1866 130CL built 1853

Amoy Treader schooner 65 CL

1866 65CL built 1859

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